CyberFuels Holding Company Inc (PK) (CBRF) Noticias

That they are…they can even make you talk to monkeys…

I would hope so Monkey... These slow volume days are boring !!

will mgmt finally update shareholders???

FSR today?

pathetic that mgmt can't provide an update

Unfortunately I think we’re seeing it….but you never know with this company.

On a lighter note, I would think the company would end the year with a holiday update. It would be nice to regroup and start the New Year 2025 with a solid plan forward! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all the shareholders We need Mabanaft to come aboard and lead the buildout for the new year, because if they don't it will be a long hard climb forward with no distribution center of our own. Let's see how the company handles the end of the year.

hilarious fake news mod abandoned this dumpster fire after all its fake news pumping...

wouldn't be surprised if terrible mgmt put out an update today at 2PM... hahaha

what a terrible mgmt team...

probably FSR today.... hahaha

Talk about stupid and hilarious, you win. What’s the difference in the end? The consumer is going to demand the product that they can save money on, and the distributor, who is the middle man in the equation, will have no choice but to supply it, or the consumer will find one who will.

What about ethanol? Has that messed with big oil’s ’gravy train’…? Or did they find a way to maintain their profit? And our product is a helluva lot simpler and more cost effective and just plain better in every way than ethanol.

Simple math. You should try it sometime.

Well I guess that about sums it up!

Wow .......Talk about stupidity and hilarious,

You don't know difference between consumer and distributor ???.
Who said no one would use it ? I didn't. Seeing things that aren't there ... which is more or less the norm here.

Of course the CONSUMER would want it and use it (assuming it works for their application). I didn't say anything about the CONSUMER not wanting it or that they wouldn't use it. I only said "DISTRIBUTOR" 1/2 dozen times or so. HINT: THAT AIN'T THE CONSUMER.

I was only giving an example of what YOUR OWN MGMT TEAM has already stated. To quote John Lawrence update June 28, 2024 It’s a double-edged sword when negotiating with fuel distributors about bringing diesel with Dynamo ™ to their customers when they understand that they may lose over 20% of their sales due to our efficiencies. These are just some of the obstacles to closing the sale but both Wowza and Green Path Technology (previously named Trucking Tower) have super sales teams and managers that are moving those obstacles out of our way. DUH. The consumer wins ....... But those in the fuel supply chain LOSE revenues i.e. DISTRIBUTORS. Gov'ts LOSE TAX REVENUES. It is simple math and your own mgmt offered it as an "obstacle". Is your mgmt saying stupid things too ? Maybe you shouldn't answer that one eh ?

And "Big Oil" companies are going to desire to lose 20% of their revenues (and profits) from selling fuels ??? Really ? What fantasy land do you live in ??? THE EXAMPLE ISN"T ABOUT WHAT THE ADDITIVE DOES TO THE FUEL, IT IS ABOUT WHAT THE ADDITIVE DOES TO THE REVENUE/PROFIT GRAVY TRAIN OF BIG OIL. (assuming it works as touted).

Why doesn't your mgmt have additive sales going through the roof ??? Mills only been at it for a decade+. What's the hold up if every consumer wants it and "Big Oil would be killing themselves and climbing over the corpses" to have it in their diesel ? "Would be" ....... but they aren't are they ??. It is simple as all hell for Big Oil to mix the additive into their fuel. So again .... why hasn't it happened ? The simple fact is ..... if it is gonna mess with the petroleum "gravy train" (revenues and profits) ... Big Oil isn't gonna come running unless their is a way to maintain their profit train.

Amigo Mike

pps doesn't live... the fact they can't close a deal should tell you something

Matt, the fins prove no one buys dynamo

That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
You're telling me if there's an additive out there that turns diesel into super diesel?
Which is a 53 cetane diesel, that no one's going to use it?
That's Insanity.
Big oil companies would be killing themselves over it and climbing over the corpses to be able to put it in their diesel.
And everyone that's a driving a big rig is going to be lined up at their pumps because they have the best product out there. 25%+ better mileage, 25% plus reduction in DEF use.
Not to mention it eases the wear and tear on their equipment and increases the lubricity, meaning less often rebuilds.
Rather than saying no one's going to use it...I think it's pretty obvious whoever does sell it is going to own the market.

I expect this goes belly up SOON

how pathetic that mgmt can't update real shareholders

such terrible mgmt....sigh

Below is an article linked to platinum's potential. It is not directly related to CBRF. What is interesting within the article is the discussion of clean hydrogen and SAF - areas I believe CBRF is interested in/working on. Will companies be given carbon credit or some type of tax incentive for saving fuel, using cleaner fuel etc.... Food for thought while we wait.

https://hardassetsalliance.com/blog/platinums-potential-why-this-undervalued-precious-metal-could-be-your-next-smart-investment/

Blessings to all and Merry Christmas!

M1Maggot,

It is fairly simple math .... where only a new distributor doesn't have a loss of revenue.

If on a given day a distributor sells a billion gallons of fuel to support all the miles driven ... we'll say at $3 per gallon. $3 Billion in revenue.

But tomorrow all those same MILES are driven with fuel with additive in it .... it would take only roughly 800+ million gallons (assumes straightline 20% reduction) to drive those same miles. Maybe cost is $3.10 with additive .... only $2.48 Billion revenue. CBRF wins ... everyone else loses. Lost is profits on 200 million gallons of fuel that would have been consumed that were not. Losses in tax revenues by gov'ts who tax per gallon sold. The numbers get big fast.

So distributor is selling less fuel ..... which means less revenues (and profits). As I noted ... CRBF has already tossed that out as a detractor offered by a potential distributor. Almost all in the petroleum delivery chain lose revenue due to fewer gallons flowing. The only offset is 25% more demand and there's not going to be a 25% increase in miles driven.

The big boys ain't gonna like that much ..... and neither are their shareholders. You don't sell more fuels unless more than 25% more miles are driven. And if you happen to be the distributor to take on an additive that reduces fuel consumption, you have to first take on the 20% loss of revenues and then need a 25% increase in sales to get back to where you were.

Amigo Mike

should be belly up SOON

The Lorton’s are perfectly content with their 6 million shares and what they’re getting from us monthly toward the land…knowing they’ll soon have the rest.

We only have the port till the Lortons call in the loan or we pay the 18 million. Then we have 11 months to pay the 25 million. 

NENorth…the Amigo failed to mention some of his postings fall into that 99% unreliable category as well…

We’re going to be just fine. These guys may be keeping too much from us, and it may take forever…but that’s because they are not caving in to pressure from the big boys.

We have the additive…which has been proven…and we have the port of Tampa property.

My point exactly…no brainer.

But if they are selling a better fuel, don't you think more people will be using it???? Look at it that way !

terrible ceo must go!

what will they pump next....

no surprise fake news mod up and left.

what happened to $2 by Feb 2024?

pathetic that mgmt can't provide an update..

Dude,

Wow. You havent figured out 99% of postings here are ... to put it kindly .... totally unreliable ..... as it relates to the facts that surround this company ???

Have you been paying attention for the past year ???

Read the May 2024 posted financials section 4 explanation of business operations near the bottom where it very clearly discusses the acquisition of land and waterway and as a result the company receives fees for use of the canal by 3rd parties. Extrapolate the revenue numbers relative to prior financials. Pretty easy. Well not totally given the games CBRF plays with da fins.

And I'm sure you know CBRFs financials have massive disclosure gaps and are also a deceiving running total for the fiscal year vs normal per qtr filings like 99% of public companies. You have to do work to figure the qtrly numbers. So don't get sucked in by ever increasing numbers cause that's part of Mills games as well.

Amigo Mike

Many more gallons of fuel will be sold BECAUSE of that efficiency …that’s my point…otherwise WHAT IS the point?

I do and for no other reason than additive sales are what they've got No way the derived that amount of income from waterway fee's or docking in a Q You have any idea where that revenue came from ??

NEnorth,

So you believe notoriously incorrect posters here instead of the company's own financial reporting that clearly calls additive sales out in black and white.

Ok. Whatever.

Amigo Mike

LOL dangriff,

Correct. CBRF has already used it as excuse in prior update.

Amigo Mike

It will be the buyer of fuel that will increase sales End user will increase cbrf sales

no - not kidding at all.. A distributor, seller of fuel, sells less fuel BECUASE of the better gas mileage. that's my point....
BP or Shell, getting extra 20% fuel efficiency means less fuel sold....

Fair enough...

And you seem to have none.

You seem to have all the answers !!

Discussed by dshade??

LOL…many things have been ‘discussed’ by dshade. Additive revs would not be listed as “other”.

I remember that being discussed by Dshade and other posters right when the quarterly was posted

Oh really…determined by WHO?? The additive revenues are listed.

Second line Other revenue has been determined to be additive sales...

NEnorth,

Um, you are quoting the gross profit number on the QUARTERLY reporting. The last report is for the calendar 3rd qtr of 2024 which is CBRFs fiscal 1st qtr. It is just 1 qtr of activity.

Additive sales and service is broken out clear as day as $49,941. Can't miss it. It is the first line in the revenues category.

So to say additive sales netted $291k is not correct. I previously provided the direct link. You may want to reread it. The other revenues are mostly "acquired" revenues from the Lorton deal. Most likely the waterway fees. But of course this mgmt doesn't spell it all out.

Amigo Mike

That may be true but it's early stages and sales are still going to happen

“There is no need for a contract to sell additive”…. ?!?!??

LMAO…naturally huge contracts are what the company is going after…and California would be a great place to start.

I wonder what the added efficiency to jet fuel is