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Gunther Grant Inc (CE)

Gunther Grant Inc (CE) (GNGR)

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TGoz TGoz 8 meses hace
As someone who was an original investor and who has EVERY document and email from Grant going back to the beginning (2007) I inquired about buying the shell.
Grant went off the rails and trashed and slandered me, my family and my friends/investors without even knowing them or the business. Once he calmed down he said he had OFFERS for $500k in cash for the company. When I told him he should take one of those offers, all communication stopped. When Grant is confronted with legitimate questions he ignores it and starts spewing the same garbage about how great a company GNGR is and then he stops posting for awhile. The only benefit that I or any of his original investors got from their 850k investment Grant was a tax write-off for this losing company
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MallenNV MallenNV 8 meses hace
Ok, if you say so.
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 8 meses hace
I believe when I am communicating with you I am communicating with the CEO. It is pretty obvious you use this alias so you can hide from the share holders and still protect your reputation
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MallenNV MallenNV 8 meses hace
I have no clue. You won't find, or obtain any information here. Someone posted GNGR needs a new CEO, so in reply I said, apply. You implied you want to buy the stock in the company correct? Send them your offer see what they say.
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 8 meses hace
You said apply. That means the job is open. Correct
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MallenNV MallenNV 8 meses hace
We do not own the business. You should send your proposal to the company if you have a plan. If your ideas can help the stock, we are all in on that.
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 8 meses hace
So are you selling the stock without the business. If so yes let’s discuss.
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MallenNV MallenNV 8 meses hace
What does that mean? you only need one office to be CEO so apply.
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 8 meses hace
Is there room in the basement for another office.
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MallenNV MallenNV 8 meses hace
Who knows? Why don't you apply for CEO?
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 8 meses hace
So you would say the current CEO has been effective over the last 3 years for the shareholders.
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MallenNV MallenNV 8 meses hace
How do you figure? Why don't you be the CEO?
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Diversified Diversified 8 meses hace
Bahahaha. You’re just as bad as management.
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Diversified Diversified 8 meses hace
Someone take over this shell and kick out the idiot CEO. Could be a decent clean shell company. Should be able to retire most of the shares from the IDIOTS running this.
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splintered sunlight splintered sunlight 1 año hace
How?
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packerup packerup 1 año hace
Maybe soon this gets rolling
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MallenNV MallenNV 1 año hace
Looking good for GNGR!

Looks like the are ahead of the competition and also are well advanced in all the following trends.

Data copied from website forecast.
What are the Factors Leading to Exponential Growth in the Jewelry Industry in 2023-24?
Contents

What are the Factors Leading to Exponential Growth in the Jewelry Industry in 2023-24?
1. A Rise in Available and Disposable Funds
2. Growing Awareness About Jewelry as a Fashion Statement
3. Rising Popularity of E-Commerce Platforms
4. An Insatiable Need for Personalization and Customization in Jewelry
5. The Growing Use of Advanced Technology in the Jewelry Industry
6. Increased Focus on Sustainable and Ethically-Sourced Materials
7. The Increasing Popularity of Lab-Grown Gemstones
Which Are the Most Popular Jewelry Industry Trends in 2023-2024?
1. A Shift Towards Minimalistic, Understated Jewelry Designs
2. A Growing Interest in Vintage and Antique Jewelry
3. A Trend Towards Gender-Neutral Jewelry
4. A Focus on Unique, Handcrafted Pieces
5. Increased Use of Storytelling and Branding in the Marketing of Jewelry
6. Preference for Jewelry With Meaning or Symbolism
7. Easy to Care For Jewelry Trend
A Look at Trendy Jewelry 2023-2024
1. Colorful Statement Jewelry
2. Chunky Chain Necklaces
3. Stackable Rings
4. Hoop Earrings
5. Personalized Jewelry
6. Mixed Metals
7. Pearl Jewelry
FAQs
Ready to Trend with the Rest?

$GNGR
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 1 año hace
OMG. You think anyone CEO like grant will file if they buy shares. He does not file anything. Just a thief. Keep posting 1000 word posts so you look legit.
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bar1080 bar1080 1 año hace
Given the semiliterate English of some recent posts, I'm guessing Grant may be back.

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"Your 100% wrong again. Not really the truth. A CEO like anyone else can buy on the open market. But the CEO can then put out a BS press release and sell those shares at a higher price. Or flood the market with shares they currently hold. So let’s stop feeling bad for Gunther and show how he is benefits from his lies.

This is the problem again with sub penny retailers who just don't know the facts.

1) If the CEO buys shares and then resells them higher the CEO has to fill out forms with their intentions. If the SEC does not get those documents the CEO is arrested for insider trading. Since GNGR's CEO has no record with the SEC of that action the CEO would have been arrested.

And further proof your assumptions are wrong thus proving you need to know the facts. Also during the time you say the CEO sold shares higher, the shares never went higher so not sure where you are getting your data from.

2) If the CEO did flood the market with shares as so claim (False with no proof) you would see the float rise above the current level that hes not happened, meaning no flood of shares sold to the market that would have shown in the increase to the float.

SO back to my previous post, you need to know the facts and stop guessing and trying to be SAVVY when you have no clue how the markets and rules work as proven by your 100% incorrect assumption posts that are all 100% wrong.

Who is feeling bad for the CEO? Who are you addressing your issues to, other IHUB retailers who also are clueless about the markets and how they work? Good audience."
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MallenNV MallenNV 1 año hace
Your 100% wrong again. Not really the truth. A CEO like anyone else can buy on the open market. But the CEO can then put out a BS press release and sell those shares at a higher price. Or flood the market with shares they currently hold. So let’s stop feeling bad for Gunther and show how he is benefits from his lies.

This is the problem again with sub penny retailers who just don't know the facts.

1) If the CEO buys shares and then resells them higher the CEO has to fill out forms with their intentions. If the SEC does not get those documents the CEO is arrested for insider trading. Since GNGR's CEO has no record with the SEC of that action the CEO would have been arrested.

And further proof your assumptions are wrong thus proving you need to know the facts. Also during the time you say the CEO sold shares higher, the shares never went higher so not sure where you are getting your data from.

2) If the CEO did flood the market with shares as so claim (False with no proof) you would see the float rise above the current level that hes not happened, meaning no flood of shares sold to the market that would have shown in the increase to the float.

SO back to my previous post, you need to know the facts and stop guessing and trying to be SAVVY when you have no clue how the markets and rules work as proven by your 100% incorrect assumption posts that are all 100% wrong.

Who is feeling bad for the CEO? Who are you addressing your issues to, other IHUB retailers who also are clueless about the markets and how they work? Good audience.
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 1 año hace
Not really the truth. A CEO like anyone else can buy on the open market. But the CEO can then put out a BS press release and sell those shares at a higher price. Or flood the market with shares they currently hold. So let’s stop feeling bad for Gunther and show how he is benefits from his lies.

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MallenNV MallenNV 1 año hace
You are aware that when you buy shares on the open market the money does not go to the company or the CEO. That is the issue with the OTC and the sub penny players, they have NO clue how the markets work. The only way a CEO makes money is;

A) They earn it (Like GNGR does) by selling products not shares like a pump and dump does.
B) They are a pump and dump (That GNGR is not) that sells debt for shares and dilutes the float.

So please learn how the markets work before you look foolish stating what you have no clue about. So sad how everyone thinks they know it all when they know very little.
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 1 año hace
Send me your email address and I will send the conversations I had with you through email. But all you have to do is look back. I notice you stopped buying did your plan change or was that a bs story. You always hold yourself so high as the best CEO in the world. What have you done. I did invest money when you lied about the dividend. I know you are not the CEO just someone who sounds like him. So you stole money and expect people not to bitch.
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MallenNV MallenNV 1 año hace
We worked with GNGR's CEO with no problems. What is it you are referring to with the WTF? Have you called or emailed the company your concerns or issues? IHUB is not the place for news or advice or answeres. IHUB is where the low lever investors hang out to bitch and make assumptions out or hysteria not logic. But that is what each one has to deal with in they're own way.
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 1 año hace
Look at the results. So much better. Not may CEOs can bring a stock to the expert market. Takes a a lot to do absolutely nothing. And then say your the best OTC CEO ever
WTF.
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MallenNV MallenNV 1 año hace
Better then a PO Box like most OTC tickers.
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 1 año hace
Strange the company is a basement I would think the perfect CEO would be one that can not get out of the basement
As for experience I am sure any can maintain expert market no volume and no interest. Does not seem difficult
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MallenNV MallenNV 1 año hace
One of my partners just called, Grant is alive and well.
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MallenNV MallenNV 1 año hace
Last time we met him he was OK. Here is his contact info.

www.GUGR.com
+1 631-413-5813
gunthergrantinfo@gmail.com
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bar1080 bar1080 1 año hace
How does anyone know Grant's alive?
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MallenNV MallenNV 1 año hace
I think he was looking for a CEO but so far none have proven they can even get off a chair let alone get out of a basement. I think two people did want the position but they also wanted $100,000 salary or something like that and had no way to get the company moving or bring in capital.

Every one wants to be a CEO and own a public company but no one understands how the markets or being public even works. Well maybe a few but they are too smart to get involved in the OTC since it is so corrupt.

I think GNGR is still looking for a CEO but they are not easy to come by unless you look at who is incarcerated by the SEC. If you or anyone wants to be CEO send him an email or resume. Maybe someone who is familiar with the jewelry industry
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Diversified Diversified 1 año hace
Grant Oldstder is a complete idiot. Someone needs to take over the company and file their stupid financials and do something different.

Grant should have never had a public company. He needs to sit in his basement and watch EBay all day long.
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TGoz TGoz 2 años hace
I would like to provide an update, that I described as disturbing,with my recent interaction with Grant the CEO
I am an Original investor in GNGR ($55k). The reason I invested was the he had a good business selling fudge and chocolates and they were outstanding and delicious.
As time went on he finally went public but as time went on there was nothing happening, the stock was effectively non existing. Then years later he expanded the float and made the Originals shares effectively worthless.
That is why I began posting about this, we are all pissed at what happened. I owned %6.00 of the float, now it's practically zero.

I recently inquired if he would be open to selling the public portion of GNGR, not the jewelry part. He seemed very receptive and I asked for a non binding offer that I could review and bring to my people. Many emails were exchanged and for some reason he believed that I was trying to run a scam. I have no idea where he got that from but the emails began to get pretty disturbing and nasty and I replied in kind.
Not very professional or productive especially from a CEO.
More recently he did offer me, what I believe, is a sincere apology for his communications. He also provided with a detailed timeline of the history of GNGR which appears to be truthful and accurate, from my experience and perspective.

I told i wished he would have asked for help from the Originals way back and I believe we could have assisted with the many set backs that occurred.

Grant put it all on his shoulders alone which I believe was a mistake and it must have been extremely stressful for him and probably still is.
I will not be posting those emails nor will I post the timeline although he said that I could share it. He's the CEO and you can ask him or maybe he'll post it.

I any event, we wished each other good luck as we move on.
I've learned that in life to never completely shut a door because you never know what the future holds in both business and family.

I am continuing to look for a CLEAN public company/vehicle to potentially buy out.
My people own 2 profitable separate private companies with real assets worth in the 7 figures with very little debt. It will be completely audited (as it is now) and
comply with ALL SEC and FINRA regs. TOTALLY LEGIT.
The plan is to make the vehicle a public holding company to expand the existing portfolio and buy additional assets and businesses.
The ultimate goal is to be listed on the actual NASDAQ exchange and the sub-penny, pinks, grays or whatever they call them now may be needed to allows us to move up.
NOT a pump and dump.
If anyone has any company that may be a fit just let me know.
Thanks
Tim
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 2 años hace
WOW just heard that is disturbing
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bar1080 bar1080 2 años hace
HSY's chart will certainly be "interesting and disturbing" for those of you stuck in GNGR. I've followed Hershey closely for years. it's my kind of blue chip for several reasons, but I was stunned to see how well it's performed lately. Also HSY pays a nice 1.5% dividend which beats the nonexistent GNGR payout.

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bar1080 bar1080 2 años hace
I'm sure most of us are always up for anything "interesting and disturbing."
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TGoz TGoz 2 años hace
I have GNGR news
I am an original shareholder who just had some interesting and disturbing contact with the CEO Grant Newsteder.
MallenNV told me to contact him directly so I did. If anyone is interested I will post the details, otherwise I'll post it when I think it's appropriate.
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MallenNV MallenNV 2 años hace
Again I will remind you, we are not the company, if you have any issues you can email the company directly through the company website. We short stocks and also buy stocks depending if it's a pump and dump (short) that of course are most tickers listed, or one of the few valid operational tickers like GNGR (Long).

Some keep addressing me as if I am the CEO. If I were the CEO it would have been quite the process of having GNGR’s CEO become a biological women that gave birth to two kids. I email the company to get updates and focus on the play at hand and you should do the same. Other than that, I have no corporate answered to give to you that you seem to think I have. Most of the data was once on the website but has since been updated. Anyone can buy shares in any company, some or all of the shares if desired. If a company had one share in the float at $100 anyone can buy the share and claim they own the float. If we choose to buy 100,000,000 shares that are in the float of GNGR we also have that option. The cheaper the shares the better.

We are in this for the money but it will be fun to watch everyone try and figure out how is it they have more shares in their accounts then what is in the float. When we accumulate the 100,000,000 shares we will then work with GNGR to make things happen very quickly. It will happen as quickly as all of you saying, “well there goes another ticker in my account that folded and reversed into a new pump and dump but at least I still have GNGR.” All while GNGR is still proving they have what it takes to survive and continue to expand. We want some of that success and we will end up with a good chunk of the tradable shares while we also focus on other tickers to short.

GNGR maybe our last play since it looks like it could be like winning the lotto!

We tried to short GNGR initially but it’s impossible to short GNGR. They have no debt and debt in this industry means lots of revenue. A company that does not need to sell shares for revenue while most OTC’s sell debt for revenue is the difference between a valid operation vs. an intent debt dilution operation. GNGR has never diluted the float and with no debt to sell for revenue, they have to earn capital by selling products. It is sad to see the price where it is but that’s good for us while at the same time, GNGR was never a high priced stock to begin with. The difference between GNGR and other tickers that are around the same price per share are, those other tickers started much higher (Over $1.00) then debt diluted the price down to $.002 to even $.000001 while adding billions to the float and many also end up doing one or more reverse stock splits.

Even if GNGR investors wanted to buy more GNGR to cost average, they can’t. There are not enough shares to buy and at this price it is still too costly to average down because GNGR was never a high priced stock to begin with. To make any dent when cost averaging, the ticker has to have billion in the float at $.0001 or less on the asked price. If GNGR was at $.0001 on the asked, the low true DTC 100,000,000 float could be taken out for only $10,000. I would love that!

Fact; GNGR is not a pump and dump and can’t convert debt to revenue because they have no debt. They have a low float that was never at a price high enough to justify cost averaging at the current price and there are not enough shares available for anyone to cost average down.
GNGR has fewer shares in the float then most tickers on all exchanges and what are listed on the OTC and gray markets. Any slight change of plans means less shares will be available, once the oversold shares are taken out of circulation.

A low float, low priced stock on a valid company is a monster waiting to be awoken.
And it looks as though we have the alarm clock in our possession.

It would have been impossible to buy billions of float shares had GNGR emerged as a pumped stock years ago. Being able to buy a low float cheap is found money for sure and will also ignite past issues and expose what we are betting on, will cause a series of events that have been proven with 100% accuracy in the market place. The only issue with GNGR is any move to make the stock more attractive and liquid will be quickly suppressed when those who own naked shares start to sell holding the float hostage to what looks to be at least 400,000,000 held by investors over the float that can be as many as 2 billion or more over the true float.

The true DTC float being what it is, 100,000,000 is big enough to have everyone believe they own part of that float. Since no one owns over 100,000,00 DTC float shares there could be 2,500 investors who each own as few as 50,000 shares putting the total well over the true float yet they each believe they own that percentage of the 100,000,000. Some posted if I recall, own 10,000,000 more or less shares and still think they own that percentage (10%) of the float (And they do) when in reality they own a smaller percentage of what is actually in the market place as over sold that can hurt their position on any spike in price or liquidity movement. If there are 2 billion naked shares, those 10,000,000 represent only one half a percent not 10%.

In order for those who own the true DTC registered 100,000,000 shares and benefit by the success of GNGR, the naked shares need to be forced out of the market place first. Here is another problem. Since many brokers hold shares in a street name (Allowing them to be lent out to other short sellers) and for example if TD has 200,000,000 shares in many investors accounts and the broker only owns 20,000,000 DTC shares, they will not be able to pick and choose who owns the street shares, They will be forced to call in all the lent shares and still be short having over sold naked. And those borrowers who also lent the shares out will be faced with the same issue as they call back the shares they lent out. This can multiply the 100,000,000 true DTC float to be 10 or 20 times the true float. Their could in fact be over 2 billion over sold held by investors.
That is why any good news or attempt to move GNGR will remain stagnant with those over sold killing any benefit to the 100,000,000 true holders of GNGR.

Since all GNGR shares, DTC true 100,000,000 and the naked oversold shares are all considered real shares in real buy transactions, brokers have to treat all shares sold as real shares and they must deliver them. They could try and buy back billions of shares but it would expose a run and more will jump in to buy driving up the share price so they would have to first attempt to buy shares from the company, or anyone holding certificates before they start a public buy back to mitigate costs.

Anyone holding certificates will be very popular with brokers.

If noting is done to close the shorts, those additional shares above the float are never really exposed and end up just part of what is available to buy and sell with no oversight. That is why the oversold shares will be exposed by design not chance. When the shorts are exposed and the issue not corrected it becomes criminal. Why would (GNGR) the company work hard to have the shares really when the over sold shares will also trade on the open market? Close the shorts then move to higher ground is what needs to be done and in a specific order and time frame.

Also to mention, closing the shorts would put millions into GNGRs war chest.

I’ll say it again. Our attorney said in a meeting that if GNGR is trying to be a scam or questionable company they are doing it wrong. I have to go and focus on other tickers we shorted and get ready to close those out and make some money and continue to work on this play that is so out of the ordinary and looks like it may be a first in the market place. Super excited to say the least.

On that note.
What is a vortex machine? And yes! Anything is better then a PO box.

Time to hit Chuck E Cheese!
When my youngest starts to kick and cry I say stop acting like a typical OTC investor when they look at their stock account. I have yet to try the cheese to the face tactic.

$GNGR
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 2 años hace
Sorry combined you and your dad own more than 20 million
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RM5LG RM5LG 2 años hace
That is incorrect. I do not own 20M shares.
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bar1080 bar1080 2 años hace
How was Grant "very good with chocolate?" Didn't he just melt it into molds? BTW, what happened to the Vortex chocolate machine he said he perfected several years ago? Lord, I hope no one is averaging down on the incessant BS.

"He was very good at chocolate but not as a CEO of a public co."
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 2 años hace
Here is GNGR entire operation. A duplex. Much more impressive than a P.O. Box

https://goo.gl/maps/wdR9zFSPZViiVfH56
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 2 años hace
You own 20 million shares. Would be nice at 10.
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rmclau4493 rmclau4493 2 años hace
So if you buy the float and pull the certs the float is still public. You need to retire the float expect the 1,000 shares. You can not retire the shares since you are just a poster on IHub. You can not win. Many have tried. Even if you pull this off could you really justify a $10 price per share that would be a $10,000 valuation for a person making jewelry in a basement. No or little revenue and no profit. Can not see this having any interest in the market. Just waiting to see what your con is. But you are spending a lot of time with BS thoughts on this and other stocks.
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TGoz TGoz 2 años hace
How Long Can Grant's BS Continue? 15 years So Far.
If anyone actually believes that MallenNV isn't Grant then I have some fudge to sell you. Marcy Allen is/was Grant's wife's name. They moved from NY to Nevada. Convenient coincidence? As an original investor in 2008 I can tell that Grant is ALL talk. He took $850,000 in "investments" from mostly friends and acquaintances at .10 per share and we were ALL screwed. He was very good at chocolate but not as a CEO of a public co. At one point I owned 6% of the float, but Grant had to raise the cash and the "Liquidity" he complains about. It reduced my investment to .0006% of the float. Oh, but he did gives us a 20% dividend in stock but to actually obtain this dividend it would have cost way more then the stock was worth because of the diluted value of the existing shares. WAY TO TREAT YOUR FRIENDS GRANT! When pressed for answers he ALWAYS talks about being a real company not a PO Box but has anyone seen his factory? it's no doubt his basement or garage. He deflects and talks about fake Gold mine, cannabis companies, short squeezes and whatever is the scam of the day, that's his M.O.
I DARE him or Marcy to post a picture of the factory where these great chocolates, Oh I mean jewelry or is it something else today?
How about posting the actual revenue of this GREAT company?
After many exchanges on 10/30/2014 Grant said he would actually buy back my shares at my original investment of .10 per share but to no surprise he GHOSTED me.
BTW GRANT, I HAVE EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT AND EMAIL EXCHANGE WITH YOU GOING BACK SINCE 2008 TO BACK UP MY CLAIMS, SO BRING IT ON,
I DARE YOU!!!
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RM5LG RM5LG 2 años hace
I don’t post on here often but at times I check in. Thank you for your info into what to look for and look out for. I don’t understand all of it, won’t try to pretend that I do. But, I understand most of it. I just have a couple of questions if you could answer them:
- has there ever been a company in the past that someone/group of ppl were able to buy up the float? The reason I ask is it seems it would be pretty tough to do. I would assume this hasn’t been done in the past but GNGR lends its self to it, due to the low float.
- do you think it would be possible to squeeze the shorts and drive the price to that 9.50-10 range? I would think that could only be done if there were only a small amount of shares in float, as you have mentioned in the past. I believe that’s what happened with GME and that went into the hundreds of dollars a share. So I guess with a short squeeze, it’s possible to get to the $10 share price? I sure hope you’re right because that would be awesome. Lol

Again, thanks for stopping in and giving proper investment info. The OTC seems like it’s filled with a lot of scams, GNGR being the exception for the reasons you have mentioned already. Look forward to your future posts.
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MallenNV MallenNV 2 años hace
Splinter, again sorry I don't have PM and to get on line at a certain time is hard since I have to much going all day to set a time aside for the free PM.

We don’t buy stocks unless it’s at a lower price to close out the shorts. But we do buy stocks in companies that do not have a scheme set up in place. GNGR.

And knowing full well GNGR has open shorts and a low float the simple answer is to buy the float, retrieve the certificate and leave only 1,000 in the float then make an offer to buy the 1,000 shares for $10 each. Drive the bid up to $9.50 and the SEC forces the brokers to close the 300,000,000 open shorts at $9.50 per share.

We then sell the 100,000,000 well own on the short squeeze for $9.50 per share to the brokers who must close the short positions. This will also trigger an investigation into the fraud from brokers, market makers and independent series licensed traders.

This will affect everyone involved as far back as 2008 that helped cause this issue.

2 of the individuals who helped structure the naked short selling are dead (2 more to go!)

Why would we buy any ticker that has debt and no sales and is located in a PO box that used to be different ticker? They will simply use the debt to make millions off sucker investors.

GNGR never had a chance to be a scheme pump and dump because the structure was not there to be one. Over time one would see the situation and know a move needs to be made with millions on the line, it could be a cash cow for us.
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bar1080 bar1080 2 años hace
You mentioned 2012. Even a blindfolded chimp throwing darts should have been able to triple his wealth since then in an S&P 500 index fund, like what I own. See chart below. GNGR has severely lagged chimps.

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bar1080 bar1080 2 años hace
Back to my question:

How do they turn debt into revenue?
"Debt is what makes them the money, you get rid of debt you lose your revenue."
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MallenNV MallenNV 2 años hace
Splinter, also the data goes way beyond posted data, Look at the TA's!

Transfer Agents that issue shares (restricted or free trading) do so at the companies or debt holder request. HOWEVER! Some transfer agents will not issue free trading shares on a debt conversion until after the debt holder shows they have paid the debt.

Schemers do NOT like to pay ONE PENNY out of pocket so they choose to use transfer agents that allow shares to be issued free trading on the debt conversion approval before the debt us actually paid. Those transfer agents are hand picked by the scheme before the ticker or reverse merger is in play.

Then the debt converters pay after they dump diluted shares so they are out no money up front. They pay the debt with investor’s money, and is a small fraction of what they rake in.

GNGR uses Pacific Stock Transfer and they require proof of debt payment before they release the free trading shares to the debt holders. And scheme debt holders stay CLEAR of those LEGIT transfer agents.

Since going public GNGR has survived while twice the listed OTC tickers since 2012 have traded hands, had name changes, ticker changes, or folded. People hate GNGR and that is good for us. We see things differently then what all retailers see.

Pump and dump retail investors see the pretty frosting on the cake even if the actual cake is cement. We see what the cake is made of before any frosting is put on it.

Those pump and dump schemes are like a cute Panda Bear, you want to reach out and pet it and when you do the bear rips your arm off.

GNGR is like a harmless turtle or un-frosted cake. But a turtle is not as cute as a Panda Bear but at least you won't get your arm ripped off. And no one likes un-frosted cake

The problem with retailers is they want the frosting over cement and to keep petting the Panda Bear. And the outcome is always the same.

Broken teeth and no more arms! :)
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