Mr Cooper Group Inc (COOP) Opciones

To Change the Subject, XOME activity is mentioned a little over a week into the new year. Maybe this upcoming conference call the Board of Directors might elaborate more on XOME’s Future Plan, albeit, Monitization,Spin-Off, Sale, Merger or Acquisition. Just my Wild As$ Guess. My Tin Hat was Tingling, My Tin Hat was Tingling. So, I decided to pee on the electrical fence.

Well you have to put some fundamental basis for reality behind it. Current president, the promise of the future regarding rates, opportunity for growth given the current PE.

But after 15 years there is no fundamental basis for reality regarding escrow. It’s now boiled down to who can regurgitate the same word pablum, namely; repetitive conjecture.

JHD

Are you upset because you took cactus advice of buying in single digits and sold at 50......keep taking his advice...he is such a great investor.....lol

Quote: "posting that "COOP" is headed to $200.00 ? why not $2,000.00 ?, Sure Looks Like (interruptive) Speculation To Ol' cactus LOL ~"


You can laugh....but you did not expect it to go to far above 50.00 that is why you sold at 50.50.  For those holding and staying in....are laughing that it is above 105......as it rises....

Ole Cactus posting alarm/buzzer went off and woke picky up! Gezzzzzz! Get a life!

~ posting that "COOP" is headed to $200.00 ? why not $2,000.00 ?, Sure Looks Like (interruptive) Speculation To Ol' cactus LOL ~

... everything WaMu ... COOP, WMB Note / Euro Bonds, LBHI 10-a' CT's, and all Plan Directed & Cusip Designate Released ... Yeppers, Are ALL 100% PAID FOR for ol' cactus ... so, its all good ...

... related to this participation ?, ol' cactus is just fine no matter what happens' ... all WaMu expenses were recovered a few years ago now ...

just sayin'

AZ

Don't forget your "soon" really "soon" or has that changed to another decade

Yep.....moving on up....

Too much speculation. Meanwhile the only thing that currently matters, COOP, is at a new high and headed for $200+ imo.

JHD

~ Good Morning John, JPMC Using Common Stock for the P&AA ? ... hmmmmm', That "WOULD" Be A Surprise ~

... "JPM is using common stock to pay off the PAA components" ... a few initial thoughts,

* 1st', the P&AA was an agreement made years prior to the 2018 acquisition, excluding all of the new and current people (which I DO AGREE WITH) ... but JPMC is not positioned to do that correction ... Only COOP can correct the share base' ... "Unless" JPMC is planning on its own acquisition / purchase of "everything" WMIH, it subs and its acquisitions

* 2nd', any action involving "a shares for value" prior to the 2018 acquisition, would be contradictory to the "Releases" that WE' signed ...

* the initial conversion was in the 2012 Plan', ... the wmi-lt's were also Plan designated and placed in the lt's DCR ... But That's It ! ! ... on credible information, the wmi-lt has completed its Court Ordered Functions and is done and humorously has now achieved its own "To The End"

just sayin'

AZ

SOFI reported great earnings, expect the same from COOP

https://x.com/stockplaymaker1/status/1883848328909336746?s=46&t=MxR4z7pPou_0usGfqAHGvQ

105.77... very nice !

All Time High

Chinese disinformation!

Hello AZ it looks like JPM is using common stock to pay off the PAA components. I expecting the same for us!

Semper Fi

U ask the wrong question 🤣

DeepSeek says no money coming back from CH11 and even FDIC or somewhere 😁😒

📢🚨COOP is a 96% BUY at barchart.com

https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/COOP/opinion

🔥COOP absolutely UNDERVALUED===>fair PPS is $250+🔥

Check COOP's current P/E ratio: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/COOP/key-statistics?p=COOP

COOP's trailing P/E is only: 13.38
COOP's forward P/E is only: 7.47

The P/E ratios in this list (data is as of January 2025)
Financial Svcs. (Non-bank & Insurance) covering 166 companies is the correct row:

http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/pedata.html

Financial Svcs. (Non-bank & Insurance)
The average P/Es are:
Current: 92.01
Trailing: 30.21
Forward: 22.29

So COOP's P/E is way too low and COOP is absolutely undervalued.
The PPS should be $250+ considering the forward P/E in my opinion!

A diamond isn’t real until it is.
JHD

The GSA agreement resulted in a cash settlement of 4 billion dollars in DEPOSITOR FUNDS, plus a 2.5 BILLION NOL Tax allowance for WMI....The source of this Depositor funds was never discussed on this message board, so what was the source of this 4 billion dollars, and why did parties to the GSA settlement agree to it?????....hint:..... the money was used to pay Secured Creditor Claims in the chapter 11 restructuring...(2).. the FDIC is now holding 299 billion dollars in MBS, and other instruments which belong to who????......conclusion:...the Creditors owned those secured debt instruments, but would not be paid until they matured years hence, and the chapter 11 restructuring would be delayed for years...Civil War General was on to something when he posted that WMI probably settled for a Present Payment of a Future sum of all the interest that WMI would have made on those loans..said another way: WMI opted to receive 4 billion dollars now, rather than wait years for those MBS to mature and pay off....My opinion?... the FDIC owns those 299 billion in MBS, and gave WMI 4 billion dollars back to the Creditors that bought them.....anyone want to give an input as to the source of the term Depositor Funds...?... Lodas

"Don't hold your breath" means that you shouldn't expect something to happen anytime soon, implying that it's very unlikely to happen at all [color=red]or might take a very long time to occur, not necessarily that it will never happen;[/color]

Keefe, Bruyetter & Woods (KBW) now a Stifel Financial company.

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In June of 1962, Harry Keefe Jr., Gene Bruyette, and Norbert Woods founded Keefe, Bruyette & Woods (KBW) along with five other employees and $50,000 in capital. Together, the founders launched KBW with a vision of the future and a belief in personal accountability during a time when investors purchased bank stocks for the dividend yield alone. Few banks published balance sheets or earnings statements and research was nearly nonexistent. With the addition of sales, trading, and research operations, and a clear focus on regional banks, the company has branched out since its founding. We’re now widely considered the leading expert on all financial sub-sectors.

In February of 2013, after fifty years in operation, KBW entered into a merger agreement with Stifel Financial. The combined strength of the two organizations has allowed KBW to chart a course for continuous growth while leveraging Stifel’s robust global wealth management capabilities. This merger has also empowered KBW to become the specialized financial services platform of choice.

In the decades since our founding in 1962, the KBW team has grown to more than 400 people, yet we’ve preserved and nurtured the spirit of teamwork, employee participation, and individual initiative that has underpinned the firm’s resilience and success throughout our history.

https://www.kbw.com/about-us/about-our-firm/

......... and KBW worked for FDIC back in 2009 timeframe and so they knew what was going on...

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FDIC in $2.6 Billion Auction via KBW
September 22, 2009, 7:52 p.m. EDT
1 Min Read

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. is auctioning a $2.6 billion pool of performing and nonperforming acquisition, development and construction loans through KBW Inc.'s Keefe, Bruyette & Woods Inc.

https://www.americanbanker.com/news/fdic-in-26-billion-auction-via-kbw

Slpit T, yes, I believe this is correct. These UWs are the very people that perform this exact work so of course they would know where the real GOLD is located. So yes, class 19 and/or preferred shares as it stated in the 8K Filings dated 8/1/2012 distributions shared with preferred equity interests at 75% and common equity interests at 25%


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Don't you remember MW's letter to shareholders stating that assets unrelated to creditor claims was put into liquidating trust for the benefit of equity holders?. Why did he lead the TAB and the entire cases?. Why insiders were appointed as administrators in 2020?.Its not rocket science, just common sense that whole enchilada was folded and just waiting on the closure of Receivership.
https://www.fdic.gov/resolutions/professional-liability-program-lawsuits
https://www.fdic.gov/news/speeches/2025/three-financial-crises-and-lessons-future
Who would FDIC pay $69 Billion "EVENTUALLY"
"In addition to these extraordinary interventions to prevent the failure of large institutions and the financial system, from 2008 through 2013 nearly 500 banks failed, including the largest failure in the FDIC’s history, Washington Mutual with $300 billion in assets. These failures would eventually cost the Deposit Insurance Fund approximately $69 billion.

LARGE green, Not much was ever said about KWB being a minor underwriter however they were and had insider information and got an extra year to elect what class they were in. As I recall they were advisors to WMI. THEY ELECTED preferred shares! But had an additional year to annalize and Elect what position they wanted. THAT tells me Perferred are Golden at some point when the FDI C wraps up the Receivership.

What a load-a-crap (lodas). Sure, sure, they chose Class 19 for tax purposes, LOL.

Please expose!!!!! Let's see what you got.....

Maybe she will do the fight again for the mom and pops but this time not put in a claim for millions in return.......nothing matters if there is no distribution.....even if it is just for interest.....

Yep....walrat will going into the sunset on scooter....claiming I fought for justice for wamu shareholders.....

since all common and preferred was classified as equity, the Underwriters opted to be in class 19 because they could have gotten a better deal with the IRS in writing off their losses in a different tax bracket as holders of preferred shares versus common shares...this is just my opinion, but the chapter 11 release documents were known to the Underwriters before they signed the documents...maybe they just wanted time to evaluate their advantages between classes 19, and 22, and finally decided on class 19, and fought so hard to maintain it.....WMI stated on court that "all reportable, and assets NOT REQUIRED TO BE REPORTED WERE DISCLOSED TO THE COURT...so, IMO, the reason the Underwriters wanted to be in class 19 was for better tax write offs, and not for more recovery post chapter 11 closing...JMO...... Lodas

No one even cares or knows....buried under 100 layers of documents including an examiner saying nothing left....she will never be exposed....

Bban, didn’t you once hint that those PR’s about 75/25 to the end by the LT , was meant for AZ ?



They came out twice on the 75/25 on all distributions and told all exactly how it would be paid out

SO THAT NOBODY CAN CLAIM THEY WERE FOULED IN ANYWAY FORM OR FASHION so they could be sued

REMEMBER THEY CAME OUT TWICE TO QUELL MESSAGE BOARD RUMORS[/

I guess the were talking about YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175612298

It will be much like the JUDGE in the K-MART case, now let's see if she has enough GUMPTION to come out as he did and admit she was wrong, and fooled I seriously doubt it

DIDN"T SAYYYYYYYYYYY anything would happen to her but she is gonna be humiliated and it WILL go against her legacy, so YES she will get slapped metaphorically
And I assure you talked about in the legal community SHE KNEW she was wrong that very day and had messed up and it was easy to see like when your kid lies to ya and ya know better

OH and the day I was in court one could easily tell she KNEW ROESN E"TAL screwed up and then made her statement, IF IT HAD BEEN BROUGHT BEFORE ME I WOULD HAVE SIGNED OFF on it, well lady guess what ya didn't. You should have seen her put her face in her hands and then look at HOSEN US LIKE OK AH ya got me into this NOW GET ME OUT OF IT.
Funny it was the ONLY stipulation out of 48 that did NOT MAKE IT TO HER DESK HMMMMMMMMMM

"" There is no proof she screwed WAMU shareholders on purpose""


AND again as I have stated a 100 times , NONE OF THIS WILL EVER BE addressed or opened up again

When AYA specifically showed her where CLASS 19 was NOT ALLOWED to be diluted only Class 21 and 22 could be..........

SO yes she did screw us SOrry as she immediately should have agreed and put them in class 22

Lot's more sense again telling us the truth.

And it's not like the DTCC doesn't know what each of us had in our accts and if we elected to participate or not.....

Yes, back to your point about the payout matrix being put out to us in January of the year 2012 while we could still trade was amazing and then the WMILT 8K filing put out well after the 3/19/2012 origination date of WMIH/COOP on 8/1/2012 showing the Preferred and common equity interests designation.

As we were told before about MAGIC MONEY just showing up could be the reason to your point of avoiding litigation and CYA which makes more sense now.


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That ALSO may be their way of escaping any further legal issue. MAGIC MONEY just shows up

Just like I have suggested that the payout matrix 8k/pr was put out to do the same thing, as nobody can say they were not told the truth and bring suit, A SMART CYA move on their part to quell any legal action about it.....................You and I have discussed it many times as to WHY they put those out 2 different times

Bbanbob, yes, just like MAGIC MONEY!!!

Also if any takes the funds/shares given them it will basically be a hold harmless and acceptance of the deal being consummated.

Large/Split

Only problem I see is that , I DO NOT BELIEVE that Pandora's box will every be allowed to open on this debacle again.
AYA played that card and yes it EXPOSED it but, JUDGE MARY declined to do chit about it...............ANd with her having made a HUGE mistake in doing so, I seriously doubt she would ever allow this to be revisited for a minute....................

She imho is gonna get seriously slapped when money comes back here and especially if it is any of the large numbers being thrown about............

P/S. Also remember that AYA did it on her own dime and if the UW's in fact spent 800K per each court trial, if one had to hire a lawyer they best have deep pockets...REAL DEEP POCKETS for legal fees and possible sanctions

Plus not sure how ya open it again anyway as that horse is out of the barn with POR 7A and their being allowed to go to Class 19

Not a thing.....

Split, what’s currently not allowing the completion? TIA

Thank you for posting , LG! Is this ever going to be resolved.? I just do not understand the slow delivery. Does TRump and his admin have anything to do with with shareholder rights and or payment and completion in this case?

Split T; ah, very interesting from the following statement alone.

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the recent upgrade by KWB exposes their hand

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It all makes sense now as I did not realize KWB are the same UWs then giving COOP upgrades...makes much more sense.


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WMI states in court, on record by an SEC filing, in chapter 11 courtroom, "that ALL ASSETS REQUIRED, AND THOSE NOT REQUIRED TO BE REPORTED WERE DISCLOSED TO THE COURT!!!!!!!!!!!....They then sought Release signatures for you to ALLOW THEM TO ABANDON YOUR EXISTING ASSETS, AND VALUES in the old company, in exchange for stock in the newly reorganized company......any attempt by WMI, WMIH, COOP to later screw old shareholders of former WAMU/WMI values WOULD CONSTITUTE FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!.....This so called PLR you posted in no way involves recovery for old shareholders, else smarter lawyers than you would have instigated a lawsuit by now,,,, I am in reference to Bonderman, Tepper, et., al. who never went to court after the chapter 11 settlement.........punting this "frozen turkey" into a new year again???.......Lodas

Large Green , Yep the underriighters , including K W B took advantage of us and were given an extra year to choose what class they chose to be in. It appears from what people are post many of us may lose several hundred thousands of Dollars. the recent up grade by KWB exposes their hand as they know what’s coming back and have been sand bagging us for years. They fear me exposing their dastardly deeds.

U.S. Homes Sales in 2024 Fell to Lowest Level in Nearly 30 Years
Higher mortgages rates and record home prices kept sales subdued for the second straight year

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Updated Jan. 24, 2025 4:17 pm ET

U.S. existing-home sales fell in 2024 to the lowest level since 1995, the second straight year of anemic sales due to stubbornly high mortgage rates.

High costs related to homeownership sapped sales again. The average rate for a 30-year fixed mortgage has hovered between 6% and 8% since late 2022, making it prohibitively expensive for many Americans to buy homes at current prices, which hit record highs last year. Rising home insurance and property tax costs are also adding to homeowners’ expenses. Unlike mortgage rates, which fluctuate, these costs are poised to continue rising.

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Oh, I thought maybe Trump pardoned you.