100lbStriper
3 días hace
part2.......... So after Mangione-Smith would go through the elements of a claim and check off infringement, then he would go into the technical benefit of the patent. So for the 912, he said that the benefit was achieving speeds above 2400 MT/s. The speed comes up again during damages. For the 608 patent, he checked off the infringing elements by using circuit diagrams from Samsung, Renesas, etc. He said that the benefit was that you could make fine adjustments allowing the system to achieve faster speeds. For the 417, the benefit was load reduction. The system sees less of the ranks. This allows you to use 2-3 DIMMs per channel. Without it, you could only use 1 DIMM, or you would sacrifice performance.
Next I have Mangione-Smith’s cross exam by Cordell. He started by going into how much goes into fabricating semiconductors, and that Netlist patents don’t cover any of that. He then went into Zettabytes, and how they’re a 1 with 21 zeros. Sheasby had a slide with zettabytes, but only spelt it with one “t” and only 18 zeros. He went on to say accuracy matters, but then had a little mix-up himself with his slides almost immediately afterwards. However, Cordell has the best line of the day, and most of the court didn’t catch it. He put up a truth table as a demonstrative, and then told Mangione-Smith that he didn’t think he could handle the truth table. He didn’t get the laughs he deserved for that one (I don’t think everyone caught it🤔). Cordell went on to say that the memory controller and not the memory buffer was responsible for the delay. Okay, so here’s where I end my notes for that day because in all honesty- I had to focus on staying awake
NLST Sorry for the incomplete second day of the trial, but even though I left early today, I have more notes from today than yesterday. However, I’ve been up since 5, sat in court, drove over 4 hours back to Houston, and I am pushing midnight here - so I’ll pick back up tomorrow. I enjoyed the trial more today. Yesterday was just a struggle to fend off sleep while looking at the same exact circuit diagrams over and over from all of Samsung’s suppliers (they make them all exactly the same but we still had to show that in court).
100lbStriper
3 días hace
prime311
Yesterday 11:04 PM
$NLST Pulling out my notes, but someone mentioned questioning validity of the patents during the McAlexander (took the correct spelling from Rob’s post) testimony. They already stated that the trial isn’t questioning validity- McAlexander’s testimony was to disprove infringement. The only trial I have been at where validity was tried was the first Samsung, and even then validity wasn’t tried on the 060 and 160. Both this trial and Micron, all patents were assumed valid. They are trying to disprove an element of the claims. If they don’t infringe on an element of the claim then they would be deemed non-infringing on that claim. This happened at the first two trials that I attended as well. Hope that helps clear it up. Also, they have to get infringement on the independent claim in order to be awarded infringement on that claim’s dependent claims.
ST Okay, so a little of my day 1(which was the trial’s day 2). I got into Marshall around midnight the night before. I had my son with me and we got pulled over about 4 or 5 miles from the hotel. The trooper said I crossed one of road lines. Got a warning, but was just ready to get to the hotel-so didn’t argue. We got to the courthouse early the next morning , but for the first time they asked to see IDs at the security checkpoint. My son didn’t have his on him, so back to hotel we went to fetch his ID. Made it back to the courthouse right as it was starting. First thing that morning, they showed video depositions for the Netlist case. I’ll go into that on my next post.
Before I talk about the depositions, I would like to say that I was there for most of Netlist’s case, and the very beginning of Samsung’s case. So with that said, my notes will have more positives than negatives because it’s Netlist presenting. This afternoon and tomorrow might seem more negative because now it’s Samsung’s case to present. This happened at the last trials too. If everyone remembers correctly, I was more apprehensive about the first Samsung trial than Rob. I was worried that the jury wouldn’t understand all the technical information. I didn’t like our expert on the validity of the 339, 918, & 054 patents(he hasn’t been in any of the subsequent trials). Rob felt good about how we did and he was right. We both felt good about the Micron trial, and Rob even joked that he hope it wasn’t a jinx. We ended up winning that case too. Like Rob said in a post yesterday- it’s like a rollercoaster.
First video deposition I saw a senior VP of memory with Samsung. I think my handwriting says Hyun Ji Ki. He was involved with the Netlist collaboration. The purpose of this deposition was to show where he said that Samsung would benefit from a collaboration with Netlist and their IP. He they wanted access Netlist patents and develop NVDIMM products. Next witness by deposition was another VP at Samsung. He was asked if a product needs to qualify. He said that’s correct. Next, if it’s not qualified, then it can’t sell? He said correct.
I stopped writing during the rest of the video depositions because they were in Korean, but the closed captioning was hard to follow. The gist was mainly people talking about the collaboration and one person was asked about the scarcity of semiconductors around 2018ish. The first live witness that I saw was Mangione-Smith. In my opinion, he always comes across likable and pleasant. He let the jury know that the patents covered RDIMM & LRDIMM. He the explained RCD’s (registered clock drivers) and how they are found on both types of DIMMs. He then went on to discuss buffers, and how they are only found on LRDIMMs. Samsung purchases their RCDs from Renesas, Montage, and Rambus. Data buffers are from 3rd parties as well(2 of the aforementioned 3 above, but don’t see it on this page of notes). He said the 912 is in both RDIMMs and LRDIMMs. The other patents are LRDIMMs
Mangione-Smith next went into detail about the elements of claim 16 of the 912 patent, and what had to be proven to show infringement by Samsung. He broke the elements of claim 16 down into letters A through G. Basically A was a memory module connected to a computer. He showed a Samsung diagram depicting how to connect a DIMM to a computer. Next B was a printed circuit board. He showed the jury a DIMM and said the circuit board was the green thing with wires. C required things like a logic element, registers, and input and output signals. He showed the RCD supplier’s diagrams and pointed out where all of the components were present (this is where it got tedious because we went through diagrams for ALL of the suppliers). For D, I have input signals again but I also have dual quad and encoded quad written down. I have that he once again checked this element off via the spec sheets from Resenas, Montage, and Rambus.
Now for the E element of claim 16. E said that a circuit has to respond to a MRS signal. During the showing of the “E” slide, Cordell objected. It turned out that Cordell didn’t have the same slide as Netlist was showing. Gilstrap wasn’t happy, then they gave Cordell another set of slides. Mangione-Smith eventually showed that this element was met via the tech data pages. For F, I have a phase-data loop on a printed circuit board - and I have- has to be coupled to a plurality of devices. On this I only have a check mark showing he checked it off. My notes are incomplete here, so not sure how he showed it. For G, I have that a command signal is transmitted to only one DDR4 DRAM at a time. I have that he showed that via PDA (per DRAM addressability)mode.
100lbStriper
4 días hace
is there an idea how long the case might last? FOREVER........... first one 463 is in cafc hands, they lose, they have to pay. give it 16months or so, and hope it comes sooner. this whole play is about court litigation cases. read the last year or so of the ones in action, 463scum cafc, 294 micrap still has to get to cafc, 293 current scum case isnt even got final judgement stamped on it........there all in the link at the top of the board. please read them.......we're at the point that the only thing that is going to move the needle on this dog is by them cutting us a check, case over, next..........then theres google lol!!!!! oh the time we're all gonna be here lol !!! and dont forget the shorting and warrants......its agony......
other than that i'm pretty sure they can operate a high end revenue status in the billions as long as they get paid for their innovation........ ever hear that expression, ''got time''..........
NLST BABY !!!
GET SOME !!!
timmuggs
4 días hace
If Matt Gaetz becomes attorney general of the USA, what does that mean for NLST?
Attorney General is all about antitrust stuff that Lena Kahn has been working on, particularly involving Google & other big tech companies, social media.
Could the AG put a finger on the scale to help Google and make NLST case go away? Quite possible.
OTOH, if Trump officials see an opportunity to profit from insider trading, they might take it, and promote NLST/GOOG/ case in favor of NLST. This would mean favoring the current one of NLST vs Samsung. So how would that work out? I'm guessing they'd 1st want NLST price to drop so they can scoop up shares, which would maximize their profits.
Tough going here. So much we don't know. But we do know that the profit incentive is strong in Trump circles. How would they play it: Taking favors from GOOG? Or playing for the big win by investing in NLST & crashing GOOG's case?
Any thoughts?