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Jxx Jxx 9 minutos hace
I feel u Guido. I understand the cynicism and frustration. 
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along4zride along4zride 10 minutos hace
Why would he put in all this effort to cleanup this mess and then reward vulture investors who have been greedily socking away 30 cent  shares for years hoping for huge profits at taxpayer expense. He is not that(FNMA) kind of guy. If any shareholders get any compensation you needed to be a owner before 2008 which eliminates almost everyone reading this .
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stockprofitter stockprofitter 21 minutos hace
You’re aware there’s a new stress test on the menu?

Wonder why…
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mrfence mrfence 38 minutos hace
Because, I realize he has good intentions of making sure everything is on the up and up, but why is he interfering with day to day operations? If the 2 GSEs are functioning properly why is he taking an interest in layoffs? Why not focus on the FHFA bloat and release the GSEs and let the CEO worry about cutting unnecessary staff. Bill's going to need a job or two after DOGE deletes da FHFA
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Lite Lite 40 minutos hace
Ah but yes Congress can help remedy this. All Pulte needs to do I\is work with Congress to void the SPSP Warrants, since they can and will to help right the Conservatorship.

After all, it has been decided that Shareholders have been mistreated by the Government and this has caused financial hardships on Investors. Has it not?

Per GROK..

Yes, Congress has the authority to change or nullify the Senior Preferred Stock Purchase (SPSP) warrants for Government-Sponsored Enterprises (GSEs) like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, as these warrants stem from agreements enacted under federal law and oversight. The SPSP warrants were issued as part of the Senior Preferred Stock Purchase Agreements (SPSPAs) in 2008, authorized under the Housing and Economic Recovery Act (HERA) of 2008 (Public Law 110-289). HERA granted the Treasury temporary emergency authority to provide financial support to the GSEs, including the ability to purchase securities and establish terms like the warrants.

Since Congress has legislative power over federal statutes and appropriations, it could pass new legislation to amend HERA, terminate the warrants, or alter the terms of the SPSPAs. For example, Congress could:
- Directly nullify the warrants by enacting a law that voids them or mandates their cancellation.
- Modify the Treasury’s authority under HERA retroactively, affecting the legal basis of the warrants.
- Require the Treasury to divest or relinquish its warrant rights as part of broader GSE reform.

However, any such action would face practical and political hurdles:
- **Legal Challenges**: Nullifying the warrants could be contested by stakeholders (e.g., Treasury, investors) as a breach of contract or a "taking" under the Fifth Amendment, potentially requiring compensation.
- **Market Impact**: The warrants represent a significant portion of the GSEs’ potential ownership (79.9% of common stock). Canceling them could destabilize the GSEs’ capital structure, affect shareholder value, and disrupt housing finance markets.
- **Political Will**: GSE reform has been a contentious issue for years, with competing interests among lawmakers, the Treasury, and private investors. Consensus on altering the warrants would be difficult.

Historically, Congress has debated GSE reform extensively without decisive action on the warrants. For instance, bills like the 2018 Corker-Warner proposal and later discussions under the Trump and Biden administrations have explored recapitalizing and releasing the GSEs from conservatorship, but none have directly nullified the warrants. The Treasury could also voluntarily cancel or renegotiate the warrants under existing authority, but this would likely require Congressional pressure or approval, especially given the fiscal implications.

In short, Congress *can* change or nullify the SPSP warrants through legislation, but doing so would depend on navigating significant legal, economic, and political complexities. As of now, the warrants remain intact, set to expire on September 7, 2028, unless acted upon sooner.
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TightCoil TightCoil 40 minutos hace
Fannie Mae - All The Way
I'm waiting for THE BIG ONE
Somethin' comin'
I Don't Know
What it Is, but it is
Gonna Be Huge
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RickNagra RickNagra 47 minutos hace
It is now clear to me that a secondary offering will never work or happen after watching this Urban Institute video. It has to be all retained earnings. Furthermore a PSPA is required post conservatorship to lock in all the reforms that have taken place. Congress will have nothing to do with the release. They are not required. And finally post conservatorship there will be no competitors entering. Great video.
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Horseman Country Horseman Country 56 minutos hace
Not entirely sure on the reporting. But the sweeps began in 2012.
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Spicoli Spicoli 1 hora hace
https://ruleoflawguy.substack.com/p/gse-vibe-shift-continues-consider?r=huaab&utm_medium=email
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Guido2 Guido2 1 hora hace
LORD, SEND US NO MORE SAVIORS

You sent us Mnuchin, who acknowledged his predecessors' swindle and then proceeded to loot another $45 billion of our equity.

You sent us Mark Calabria, the author of HERA to free us, but he hid stress test results and wrote capital requirements that assure we'll remain in perpetual slavery.

You now gave us Pulte, a home builder and business man to remedy what's wrong with a rogue government agency. Instead, he is spending his time fixing what ain't broke.

If you stop sending us Saviors, we'll learn to accept that Evil will Prevail.
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Spicoli Spicoli 1 hora hace
Frater thinks the GSEs will become dividend-paying utility-type equities that could grow with the mortgage market.
MBS investors are very important, and we must maintain liquidity in this market.
Further, addressing the senior preferred, the liquidation preference, and the…— Alec Mazo (@Alec_Mazo) March 19, 2025
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ron_66271 ron_66271 1 hora hace
What Reporting Changed Happened In 2010?

No profit Reporting due to the NWS?



Ron
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RickNagra RickNagra 1 hora hace
I just watched this entire one hour video from today. I have to admit the Urban Institute did a really good job. There was no bias or propaganda. Great information from three former CEOs. My main take home points were that up-listing and release really will take another minimum 1 year. There are a lot of steps required more than what most folks here on this board think. I highly recommend everyone watch this one hour video. It is very informative. Hugh Frater is very smart. He knows everything. Even Don Layton was quite positive and presented some great talking points.
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Lite Lite 1 hora hace
They were delisted while in c-ship — probably they can.
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Lite Lite 1 hora hace
When do you suppose He will go before the Oversight Committee for a progress report?

When will He reveal His plan, in regard to c-ship, for/of F&F?

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RickNagra RickNagra 2 horas hace
Really good article.
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Horseman Country Horseman Country 2 horas hace
Just FYI, delisting occurred in 2010 after they had been in conservatorship since '08.
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ron_66271 ron_66271 2 horas hace
Can F&F in C-ship be Listed on a Major Exchange?

I contend that F&F can’t up list to a major stock exchange while in conservatorship.

Therefore the conservatorship must end first before the up list.



Ron
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Midgetbro18 Midgetbro18 2 horas hace
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/03/18/fannie-mae-freddie-mac-fhfa-overhaul-mortgage/
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Horseman Country Horseman Country 2 horas hace
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CCSAB CCSAB 2 horas hace
Acquisition where they left pfd out. Same could have happened to first lien debt had the covenant structure allowed for the acquiring entity to assume the liability. Thereafter anything can happen. Please do explain to me how your above can apply to our situation.
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krab krab 3 horas hace
Blame & Fire the CEO's, as well managements of Fannie & Freddie for ignoring the employee absentee situations.
I bet the 40 people tunring up in the office, showed for 4 -5 hours and then disappeared for rest of the day !!!
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akennedy_stocks akennedy_stocks 3 horas hace
Yeah, either do corrupt money-grubbing politicians!

Don't kid yourself, I rather have billionaires who don't need my money running things.....

Just look around, 50 people showing up to a 3,000-person facility.
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navycmdr navycmdr 3 horas hace
Fannie, Freddie board shakeups bring conservatorship exit closer to reality

Bill Pulte now heads both the Federal Housing Finance Agency and the Fannie and Freddie boards
Marty Green, a principal with the law firm Polunsky Beitel Green LLP, thinks that the board shakeups will accelerate Fannie and Freddie’s departure from FHFA conservatorship.
Luke Baynes - March 18, 2025

https://www.scotsmanguide.com/news/fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac-board-shakeups/

Mortgage, Regulations and Compliance
The bombshell report late Monday that Bill Pulte, the new head of the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), had replaced 14 board members at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and installed himself as chairman of both boards came as a shock to many in the mortgage and housing industries. The FHFA oversees those government-sponsored mortgage companies, so Pulte’s new roles give him even more control over the direction of Fannie and Freddie.

What does Pulte’s power play mean for the future of Fannie and Freddie?

Marty Green, a principal with the law firm Polunsky Beitel Green LLP, thinks that the board shakeups will accelerate Fannie and Freddie’s departure from FHFA conservatorship.

“I think it increases the odds fairly significantly that we see Fannie and Freddie exit conservatorship at some point during the next four years,” Green said. He added that he expects the process to start before the 2026 midterm elections.

In addition to Pulte, who is in his late 30s, many of the other newcomers to the Fannie and Freddie boards are relatively young, Green said. One incoming Fannie Mae board member, Christopher Stanley, is an acolyte of Elon Musk who has worked at both X and SpaceX, according to his LinkedIn profile. More recently, he was tapped by Musk for an unspecified role in the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), according to The New York Times.

Green said that Stanley is an “unusual person to be appointed” to the Fannie Mae board of directors due to his youth and a lack of experience in the mortgage industry. He noted that Stanley’s appointment may extend DOGE’s influence.

“He may bring a great, fresh perspective. There’s certainly cybersecurity issues when you look at the mortgage data and other things that Fannie and Freddie have that are still going to be important,” Green said. “But the fact that he has such a close connection with Elon Musk and that he works at SpaceX as well, and that he’s on the DOGE team, makes that something that’s going to give them a lot more influence and insight as a result of that appointment.”

The 14 members of the boards who were ousted by Pulte were older and had more experience in the housing and mortgage industries. One member, Simon Johnson, a British-American economist, won a Nobel Prize in economics.

Green acknowledges that the optics of Pulte heading both the FHFA and the Fannie and Freddie boards “probably aren’t perfect” from a corporate governance and oversight standpoint. But he believes that Pulte’s background as a former board member of homebuilding company PulteGroup Inc. will translate well to his new role.

“We think that overall he will be a friend to the housing industry just because of his history with Pulte Homes,” Green
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 3 horas hace
I approve of the thought but I think we months months at the best. I WANT you to be right though, not me.
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DaJester DaJester 5 horas hace
I have already written this post, and this other one as a follow-up, regarding this same stupid argument (that the juniors can be wiped at all, let alone without the commons also going to zero). It's just schadenfreude-fueled wishful thinking.

I can give you an example of Preferred getting screwed relative to Common from my personal experience, if you care to hear it. Cedar Realty Trust(CDR) which got bought by Wheeler Realty (WHLR). They paid $29 per share to retire the CDR common (my cost basis was $5.58 - so great for me ). After liquidating the common, there was not enough residual value to liquidate the preferred. They essentially just skipped over them to pay common off. So the Preferred did not get redeemed, and instead just went under control of the acquiring company. Preferred holders were livid at the premium conversion common was getting in what was essentially a liquidation, and that they were getting nothing - dividends not even being paid. After acquisition, Wheeler struggled to pay dividends to the old CDR preferred, which of course affected the share price. Preferred holders were stuck or sold at a loss, whereas most common holders realized significant gains. I haven't been following for a couple years, but I think the plan was to convert the CDR preferred into Wheeler common, causing massive dilution and paled compared to the CDR common liquidation price.

Now before you get too excited, I'm not saying this is relevant to the GSEs or that common will get paid off and the Preferred stuck with some GSE newco. I'm just saying there are examples of Preferred getting hosed relative to common, and lawsuits and attempted injunctions did not help.
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ron_66271 ron_66271 5 horas hace
Friday, My thinking also.

The Plan has been in the works for along time now.
Just needed the right people in the right place.



Ron
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TightCoil TightCoil 5 horas hace
HOW? RED CLOUD - UGG
To me, it seems that ALL GOVERNMENTAL
Workers Incompetent few exception including federal workers, analysts, managers, secretaries, etc. Including workers, management and most staff in State governments, County people, City workers.
Incompetence Way of Life for Them
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Red Cloud Red Cloud 5 horas hace
Friday after market close...
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Danno_cal Danno_cal 5 horas hace
Now the question is...for whom!

Billionaires don't play well with others...jus sayin".
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ron_66271 ron_66271 5 horas hace
I’m Expecting a EO that Pulte Enforces.

• EO after hours to release F&F from C-ship by President.

• up-list on the following trading day.

Yes there is a game plan.

That is the best way to remove a Band-aid?

FAST!



Ron
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Red Cloud Red Cloud 5 horas hace
This story feeds a longer larger narrative -

Those Congressmen and Senators who are so opposed to Re-List and Release of Fannie and Freddie are:

Completely Incompetent - no oversight was provided for the Conservatorship which degenerated into yet another bloated Federal Government Bureaucracy,

Completely Wrong - such a level of waste would never be tolerated or permitted in the private sector.

Where were Those Opposed while this mismanagement was happening? Fundraising....

The more I see Bill Pulte operate the more impressed I am.
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RickNagra RickNagra 5 horas hace
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/18/business/trump-doge-federal-housing-agency-cuts.html
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akennedy_stocks akennedy_stocks 5 horas hace
I believe it is to insure success.
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DaJester DaJester 5 horas hace
It's hard for me to get a read on how Treasury putting its FnF stake into a SWF would affect current shareholders, either common or preferred. There are many ways to structure it.

I can say I have no idea either. So we finally agree on something.

I don't know that keeping the actual exercised shares in the SWF makes sense, just to provide that implicit guarantee. If the stress tests show just how incredibly strong the GSEs are, we don't need a mechanism for a government backstop.

I think they'd be better off to use the 79.9% warrants (or substantially less), to generate $100-200B in cash to put into Gold or ETFs or Index funds so that they do not have controlling interest in any particular company.
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jcromeenes jcromeenes 6 horas hace
Can anything related to the GSEs being in C for all these years be considered "normal?"
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blossom3 blossom3 6 horas hace
Unless Pulte wants to release the twins quickly without having to deal with 2 chairmen.

Of course, it's all speculation. Time will tell.
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RickNagra RickNagra 6 horas hace
Today's event Urban Institute.

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Ricco79 Ricco79 6 horas hace
The Trump Admin will do anything for their billionaires. Bill Pulte publicly mentioning corruption of democrats fits the plan.

Pointing out that injustice happened here is good for us. If he makes the shareholders rich it needs arguments or points to silence the Democrats.

The screenplay fits.
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RickNagra RickNagra 6 horas hace
Spot on.
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blownaccount9 blownaccount9 6 horas hace
It just feels like he’s crossed a line putting himself, the government regulator, into a position of power on the board.

I realize he has good intentions of making sure everything is on the up and up, but why is he interfering with day to day operations? If the 2 GSEs are functioning properly why is he taking an interest in layoffs? Why not focus on the FHFA bloat and release the GSEs and let the CEO worry about cutting unnecessary staff.
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Ricco79 Ricco79 6 horas hace
Absolutely right. The Trump Admin will do anything for his billionaires. They want to control or buy all the big corporations. Bill Ackman and his friends will make America and and rich again.

What time period do you give them? Are they already making facts in April?
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Angelmin Angelmin 6 horas hace
Pulte's plan is a smarter plan, smarter than Ackman's roadmap. 1. Get rid of 14 board members and clear all obstacles.2. Fighting against fraud, corruption and layoffs under DOGE to improve efficiency.3. As a result of the two above, we will up-list to the NYSE to attract more investors and achieve higher prices. 4. Full release!
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bmiggidy bmiggidy 7 horas hace
By making himself Chairman of both FNMA and FMCC, he ensures that no one can block his decisions. This is not normal for a regulatory role—it’s a corporate takeover play.
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Adagio Lector Adagio Lector 7 horas hace
Yes, but my average share price keeps creeping up as I remove shares from the puppet master pool. The volume traded on these drops keeps decreasing. So a nice new + run is needed.

Whale horn please :)
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jog49 jog49 7 horas hace
I think you have seen already that Pulte has nothing much of an influence on share price. The puppet masters are still behind the curtain!
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Adagio Lector Adagio Lector 7 horas hace
Can he please do it all with bouncing the stock between $8 and $9 / share instead of $5 and $6? :)
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jog49 jog49 7 horas hace
"Then punish each and everyone."

How do you punish someone who broke no laws? I suspect this individual was given a sweetheart deal so that money is gone. I want the $63B lawsuit settlement money extracted from Treasury and returned to Fannie and Freddie as an early pursuit. The greediest neck collar lawyer in the country only will take 40%. Uncle Sam took it all after settling for pennies on the dollar. You know somebody was enriched in this deal.
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RickNagra RickNagra 7 horas hace
Wrong.  As conservator it is Pulte's job to eliminate the fraud abuse waste and corruption before releasing.  And I suspect he will spend the next six months doing just that.  This way during the release he will brag about everything he did and no one can criticize him.  I also believe Pulte will want to get rid of this fraud abuse and waste before up-listing.  It just looks better.
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Release us Release us 7 horas hace
All that does is give some bad press to Biden. That money is gone and I'm almost sure we will never see a penny returned.
Pulte needs to find such money that has been promised but not yet paid so it can be stopped!

How about find all the wrong doing we can find, regardless of who done it. Then punish each and everyone.
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