Mr Cooper Group Inc (COOP) Opciones

There is no company called WMI to which those escrows are attatched to any more...they were markers given to former equity holders called escrows which were to be given pending the outcome of the former employees litigation in court... the employees lost their claim to them, and the shares were given to equity holders 75/25% in relation to their former preferred and common shares... thats it!!!... they were subsequently cancelled by WMIH as "worthless" because they possessed no intrinsic monetary value....you are not a shareholder in a former company called WMI, and have no rights to the estate of the restructured company WMIH, as successor to WMI... your shares were cancelled, extinguished, yada ,yada, yada....read the documents.....Lodas

💥🚀LATEST $COOP price targets==>DEUTSCHE BANK:$137, UBS:$135, Barclays:$130, Piper Sandler:$120, KBW:$115, JMP Securities:$115, Wedbush:$115, Compass Point:$110

BUT OF COURSE it doesn't hold what we would all love to see and that is CLASS 19 holders for 19 K and TPS

That would explain too much to every body about how much they think is left here

KCC .. not at the chicken shop 😎😂

thanks to all involved..
Found it on KFC
https://veritaglobal.net/documents/0812229/0812229120213000000000026.pdf

I think this holds DOC #9662 but you can read through and find it not me

https://www.scribd.com/document/81596589/POR7-voting-results-0812229120213000000000026


OH and thank ALICE, as she told me how to find it

sorry then pard BUT like I said SURELY someone ELSE has the shareholders list, did all I could do to help

file:///C:/Users/......62-3.pdf is a local file on your local PC Harddisk
Not possible to download

ANd sorry it took me forever to find it in saved mail and not going back through it again,NOW surely someone else has the list and can put it up,,
The way I sent it to you has PERSONAL INFO on it and I am not putting it out on the board sorry

SOrry not a pewter nerd so that is was the best i could so

NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

in refernce to your number when they shut this thing down we had 6-800 mill on the ILLEGAL NAKED short side IMHO

But who cares as they CAN NOT CLAIM anything because they could NOT register SHARERS they did now own for the proxy vote

But the still made out like the bandits they are and with the company having been delisted, THEY NEVER HAD TO CLOSE their positions out so they made out
very well and I might add TAX FREE on what they made because in end their was not trade finalized , SO TA X FREE MONEY

This shit needs to be changed, and BOBVIOUSLY, the only ones that do that are BIG BIG BOYS and the BROKERS are complicit in allowing them to do it, or THEY ARE A BROKER

don't signed into GMAIL and why doesn't what I sent you work

ihub.changnoi@gmail.com

That is the complete filing or name

Yeah, it never made a whole Lotta sense. His story was too good ..sailing from one port to another.

A ship without a rudder.

JHD

thanks a lot, but tis is a local URL , maybe better a Google document link ?

This is the guy who sold all his shares before the conversion and does not own coop shares....but hired someone to post on a message board....

Yep...how is the crypto guru doing...still at the kids table...

IN 2021 WMILT FAQ(after CH11 cases closed in Jan 2020)
c. Information to be provided before an LTI is issued
If you were entitled to vote on the Plan and submitted a properly completed Ballot
to Kurtzman Carson Consultants, LLC (“KCC”) in connection therewith, you will not
have to take any further action before your LTI(s) can be issued because a properly
completed Ballot included all requisite information. Otherwise, before an LTI can be
issued to an eligible claimant pursuant to the Plan, such claimant must provide certain
information to the Debtors’ claims agent, KCC, who will then validate the
information and provide it to the Trustee. Such information includes the name and
contact details of the claimant who shall be the beneficial holder of the LTI when
issued and tax certifications such as a W-8, W-9, etc.
https://veritaglobal.net/documents/8817600/8817600210115000000000001.pdf
wmitrust.net is ACTIVE still?.
As per the above, they collected our W-9 information allowing us as eligible claimants, right? and Plan already decided us as eligible claimants and beneficial holders.

I wonder where the sailor of the Hi-C’s went?

JHD

W-9 s were about shareholder and holdings, did they cancel the W-9s?

My shares in former WMI was cancelled on the Effective Date that was around 03/18 or 03/20.But my W-9s for different falvors were collected by estates way before when my shares were not cancelled, why?. W-9s have no relation to cancelled shares, those two are separate and works differently, but crucial to note is all the flavors of W-9s had sharecount, address and SSN where as shares never had such info, why?.

YOU have a pm

GOODIE

""Equity interest refers to a person or a company’s ownership of a business.

In other words, “equity interest” means the same thing as “business ownership”.

ANDDDDDDDDD if any her remember or care to "" THE TICK "" always said ""EQUITY A:WAYS PWNS THE COMPANY"""

Well he DID UNTIL the 2 PR's and 8K's came out stating, [b "TO QUELL MESSAGE BOARD RUMORS and MISINFORMATION the payout ,matrix is to be 75% to {PREFRD ""EQUITY Interests and 25% to Common ""EQUITY"' INTERESTS [color=red][/color] for any and all distributions.][color=red][/color]

I honestly do NOT UNDERSTAND why so many here have a hard time understanding EXACT:Y WHAT the PR's and 8K's said on two separate occasions to QUELL MESSAGE BOARD RUMORS misinformation

A COMPANY can NOT LIE IN EITHER A PR or an 8K. and if they do it is A BIGLY PROBLEM LEGALLY

Just for your information: Escrows were and are not shares. Escrows reflected ownership in relation to the 2012 vote. Even though they were removed from the accounts, the ownership remains valid, and the number of shares is registered and cannot be deleted.

maybe you should try new BS, not the old stuff - some kind of boring 😂

your shares were cancelled and extinguished, and ALL RIGHTS TO DIVIDENDS UNDER THE FORMER PROSPECTUSES ARE NULL AND VOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..... what part of that official filing don't you understand???????....... Lodas

A lot to do for someone who still claims to know all the documents better.
Give up, no one believes your fairy tales.
Enjoy the few days you have left, instead of wasting your time on a computer !

🍺🍀Happy Saint Patrick’s day🍀🍻

FDIC says that "eventually" they would pay liabilities around $69 Billion towards 2008 crisis around Washington Mutual Bank and other bank receiverships.
https://www.fdic.gov/news/speeches/2025/three-financial-crises-and-lessons-future
"In addition to these extraordinary interventions to prevent the failure of large institutions and the financial system, from 2008 through 2013 nearly 500 banks failed, including the largest failure in the FDIC’s history, Washington Mutual with $300 billion in assets. These failures would eventually cost the Deposit Insurance Fund approximately $69 billion. "

Goodie, Lodas was typing his ‘WAMU edicts’ all through the night.
But seems Picky was fast asleep.

👉👉COOP still very cheap, fair PPS is $300+

Check COOP's current P/E ratio: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/COOP/key-statistics?p=COOP

COOP's trailing P/E is only: 9.77
COOP's forward P/E is only: 7.33

The P/E ratios in this list (data is as of January 2025)
Financial Svcs. (Non-bank & Insurance) covering 166 companies is the correct row:

http://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/pedata.html

Financial Svcs. (Non-bank & Insurance)
The average P/Es are:
Current: 92.01
Trailing: 30.21
Forward: 22.29

So COOP's P/E is way too low and COOP is absolutely undervalued.
The PPS should be $300+ considering the forward P/E in my opinion!

In the early years after 2008, there was a document listing all WAMUQ shareholders, with the "small" surprise that instead of 1.7 billion shares, 2.8 billion shares were listed. Does anyone have the document or a link to it?

"your equity shares were cancelled"

Yes, Common and Pref's were CHANGED/MERGED into.....Equity interests.

What Is Equity Interest
Equity interest refers to a person or a company’s ownership of a business.

In other words, “equity interest” means the same thing as “business ownership”.

For example, a shareholder of a company holding common shares or preferred shares is considered to have an equity interest in the corporation.

A partner of a partnership will be considered to have equity ownership in the partnership.

the escrows may be cancelled, but the rights of former shareholders who voted in 2012 cannot be cancelled.

and if you don't know the CH11 case numbers 12228 and 12229 .. and this means *2* cases .. then who is to blame? .. still BS

@lodas: Thanks for your reply, but when you read my questions again you must admit that your reply is not the answer to my question. We could also inform FDIC that they write bullshit on their website and that we have a member on discussion-board who knows more than the FDIC does. You may also reply that the FDIC probably hasn't read official documents. Or why does the FDIC not CLEARY state that there is nothing and that there won't be anything in future. Read their statement again with the link what I have posted before. Why they still leave it open, although you know 100% that there won't be anything for distribution ? A direct anwer to the question would be nice

as usual, you have nothing to add to your expectations for recovery except some indiscript numbers that are meaningless without a link to the source....so, I won't bother with those that did not read the official documents.... here is an official statement made by the source, WMI..... your equity shares were cancelled... yada, yada, yada... Lodas

talking BS 500 times ist still BS .. Just remember 12229 12228

why should I give it up?.....prove that you are right, or that I am wrong, then I will leave the message board...is that a deal???......Lodas

PODAS, give it up

@nranger..... I have no intentions to squash one's hope for recovery......I have not seen on credible reason why anyone is entitled to a recovery.... did you read the documents?.... specifically Rosen makes the statement that the Litigating Trust arm of the WMIL-T FAILED TO PURSUE WMI'S ASSETS!!!!!!!!!!!!! why?.. Rosen stated the cost to sue JPM,and the FDIC would not be feasible, since the WMIL-T had limited funds to sustain court action, and besides, JPM threatened a 20 billion dollar countersuit if WMI went to sue in court...did you read the 2013 WMI 10-K which says WMIH has no court cases to retrieve former assets?...did you read where the forensic auditors said the values of WMI discussed in court were substantially lower after the chapter 11 was settled, and the auditing was completed?...did you read where WMIH was valued at 71 million dollars if sold immediately after the chapter 11 closed?... did you read where KKR has to fund WMIH 600 million dollars to form a merger with Nationstar?... if WMIH had billions in hidden assets, then why did they need KKR... so much more, but it is useless trying to talk to you guys,,,,,because not one of you read the documents....Lodas

Where is fair and reasonabble? The judge said the assets were stilll there and the equity committee could get them. What happened to the PA and A. JPM was supposed to owe us tons of deposit money, property values, mineral rights and I forgot the rest. And Lodas, your endless desire to squash evryone's hopes discredits all that you write. because you have nothing to gain from it, but some unknown agenda that I can't fathom.

@ KeyKey........ I am sure because I read and understood the documents for what they said, without imparting my own beliefs..... no reading between the lines, or guessing..... Let me ask you, as well as the members of this message board who expect a return, BY WHAT BASIS IN FACT THAT THE DOCUMENTS, OR THE COMPANY MADE PERTAINING TO MONEY OR STOCK POST CHAPTER 11?????????????????????`.....not one poster has ever quoted the contents of the official documents, or made a definitive assertion of what the company has stated.... what we get from them is speculation from Paladin, LIBOR, or closing of the Receivership as a magical route for future payouts of UNSECURED PREFERREDS, WHICH WERE CANCELLED!!!!!.....so, state why you are here expecting recovery.... as I recall, you never made one sentence on your years of waiting for recovery..... Lodas

Great minds work the same thxs Ron

@lodas: I'm still wondering how you can be 100% sure that there won't be any further distributions. Why ? Look on official FDIC page:
https://www.fdic.gov/bank-failures/status-washington-mutual-bank-receivership
Quote: " .. The Receiver periodically reviews its financial condition to determine if there is additional cash for dividend distributions. At this time there is no planned dividend distribution until the final distribution upon termination of the Receivership. It remains unlikely that the Receiver will have funds to distribute to holders of receivership certificates issued to WAMU subordinate note holders or equity holders .. Last Updated: March 6, 2025 .. "
Why does FDIC not simply say there is nothing and there won't be anything in future. Why does FDIC still leaves it open ? And you will inform us that you know it better than FDIC does ? Again: Why does FDIC not say that there is nothing and that there won't be anything in future ? Didn't FDIC read the official documents ? Thanks

@ron......the exchange event converted all preferred stock to common equity, and equity was given a pro rated share of the 200 million shares created by the mediation hearings which included former equity in the chapter 11 settlement.....you still do not UNDERSTAND AFTER 17 YEARS this simple act that transpired before WAMU went receivership... you are not a shareholder anymore, and with no rights to the former estate of WAMU/WMI.... it says so in the documents.... quit with the sophistry of fooling people that money is coming... the chapter 11 is closed 13 years ago, and with no mention of returning assets from the former company that no longer exists!!!!!!!!!....your former values were cancelled, extinguished, and all rights to dividends under the former prospectuses were deemed null and void..... Lodas

Keep Your Eyes on F&F Uplist and Conservatorship.

The government is planning on removing the conservatorship of F&F.

With the LIBOR Redactions, this could be settled in a flash, or has already been settled.

‘The Final Countdown’,
I think/hope/believe.

The FDIC completes the books by making the dividend payments to completion before closing the Receivership.

We can see the first dividend payment at anytime.



Ron

Roger that BOB... agree with all...!!


STRIKE

Roger that PICK... hope you are well...!


STRIKE

hope we are all alive and young enough to enjoy it

Well this is a most truthful statement.

JHD

Yes I agree with that..but does it have to close in our lifetime.. where is the part that discusses a closing date? So many dates have been suggested here and not one has been correct.

Regards,

JHD

BBANBOB, exactly right.

Nd9

NDT

No sir it is not just you. I said about late year 24, that if this didn't close in the first 90 days of 2025 , that we probably are going to have to wait for the R to close just as CBOA9 has said multiple timed. And I said """"Ya don't get the KEYS to the HOUSE until the deal is signed and money and keys change hands"""" zMow do we as well have LIBOR in the mix that has to close or can we close without it???????
Me thinks EVERYTHING has to close before anything happens.

SO SET IT and FORGET IT, it will be done one day, hope we are all alive and young enough to enjoy it